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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 19, 2013 11:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

Bust stress?

A lot is made of Pigpen's weight loss in the '70s, but actually '67/68 is when he really shed the pounds - from being the roly-poly heavyweight in '66 to an almost dapper figure in '69... For sure there was no diet involved, either! Perhaps health issues were striking earlier than people were aware.

(Actually, I thought Kreutzmann was always the most normal-looking guy in those days...)

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Mar 19, 2013 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

I'm asking the expert - are these shots accurately dated? Even Phil's hair seems different. Way longer in the second shot. Or is that not Phil sitting next to Bobby in the first? And why are all these people smoking? :)

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Mar 19, 2013 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

The pictures are from Dead.net. Check them out for yourself. No trickery involved:
http://www.dead.net/archives/year/Photos?page=2

And that's not Phil in the 1st shot. Pretty sure.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 19, 2013 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

This photo is dated 9/30/67, though I think it was taken immediately after the bust, anyway it gives a little more context on what the band looked like in Oct '67:

photo 710steps.jpg

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Mar 19, 2013 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

Hah, I mean the timing would make sense, but somehow I can't imagine Pig being that effected by the bust. Especially since he was the only band member who never willingly ingested illegal substances.

I'm assuming it was health related, but I find it strange that I've never heard about any health issues with him in late '67.

I always felt Bill (in those days, with that haircut and smile), looked like he should be in the show Full House. I think he'd fit right in above Bob Saget's head. He's got the creepy uncle look, but also more Bill Murray looking at times, and then eventually went the mustache route.

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Full-House-full-house-32318668-1024-768.png



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Poster: Skobud Date: Mar 19, 2013 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

That second shot is fucking weird. Bobby looks like a high school chick without any makeup on and Mickey looks like a Gay Russian Matador or some shit - and Billy is rockin' that Full House Saget style mullet too. Creepy shit.

I really dont think these pics were only a month apart.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Mar 19, 2013 1:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

LMAO @ gay Russian matador.

Yea Billy had the Full House look down pat years before Saget and gang became famous. Damn, just realized that Bill's even got the signature Full House collared shirt, and probably has his arm around Pigpen like John Stamos has his around the young girl next to him in that picture

I don't see why the dates wouldn't be accurate though. Why the skepticism partner?

http://thoughtsonthedead.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/dead-billy-really-young-cowboy-hat.jpeg



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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Mar 19, 2013 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

It's also rather difficult to tell what Pigpen's weight is in that second photo since most of his body is not visible.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Mar 19, 2013 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

Look at his face though. It is considerably thinner. Also, if you look through a lot of pics of '67 chronologically, you will notice that he does get thinner throughout the year, but it seems during October he lost the bulk of his weight.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Mar 19, 2013 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Happened To Pigpen in Oct 1967?

Photoshop?